**Looks around** Full moon tonight?
On 5 March 2015 at 19:51, <[email protected]> wrote: > I want to add my thoughts and feelings to this conversation. > > But since this is my first message to this list, here're a few links of > my tips, user-to-user (I'm not an expert and I'm just a fraction of a > programmer if at all), [user-to-user] tips: > > Grsecurity/Pax installation on Debian GNU/Linux > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=108616 > > How to Remove Systemd and Related Packages from Your Debian > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=118197 > > How to avoid stealth installation of systemd? > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=116770 > > And I'll stick one link below exactly where there is a special line, in > this > thread I'm replying to, that touched a nerve in my guts. > > But I am more of a Gentoo user still (since 2008, Debian since 2013 I > think). > Such as: > > Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268.html > > Uninstalling dbus and *kits (to Unfacilitate Remote Seats) > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992146.html > > I'm not giving you those links for no reason. While I am not a > programmer, or am just minimally one, I have extensive user (of late it > has become advanced user) experience with censorship and even > surveillance that a user, in a country ruled by a regime, is exposed to > (have unveiled it for everybody to see, and will give another two links > below exactly where there is a special line that touched a nerve in my > guts). > > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:28:59AM -0500, Gravis wrote: > > Nik, please remove yourself from the mailing list. > > --Gravis > Completely wrong, as attitude and even as merely a wish! Somebody stated > elsewhere in these few days on this list: it's free software, and it's > open source! Contrary from banning other people's opinions, we must > allow them. > > I agree completely with Nick, but I won't jump on you > Gravis, as I don't jump on some Gentoo members who, well, support NSA, > and troll against me... I'll let them like SELinux, Google and other > stuff which I despise! As long as they let me tell other members what I > think and suggest of SELinux, Google and stuff! And tell what I advise > that they use and generally do! > > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 schrieb Gravis: > > >> > Here is just one example of what I am referring to. > > >> > > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data > > >> > > >> yeah, if you actually read the article you will learn that google > > >> (like everyone else) complies with the law. if you look further, you > > >> learn that the NSA tapped private fiber lines for both google and > > >> yahoo. so what exactly did google do to offend you? > > Don't know about Nick, but I can tell what they did to offend *me*: > > Really? The Surveillance Engine Terminated All My Videos > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=113059 > > And this is where they let the local regime do what they like against > me: > > a clickjacking that only packets captured show: > Postfix smtp/TLS, Bkp/Cloning Mthd, Censorship/Intrusion > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-999436.html#7685200 > > and: > > brute mess-up of my connection: > Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268-start-25.html#7552466 > (identified the files right after it happened back in 2014, revealed all > only > these days) > > How about that, Gravis? The good do-no-evil Google? Ruining 5 yrs of my > work? > And the other two links are just samples of pranks and filthy routines > from my nearly everyday life with my dear regime online? > > NOTE: All the links above I've checked before posting, barring future > double-check report on any that was not right, further down this email > thread. For future readers from the archives. > > >>is your > > >> objection that they were hacked by the NSA or that they strong armed > > >> by the NSA? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > reporting child pornography to the FBI as legally required by law? > > >> > I don't understand where you got child pornography from. > > >> > > >> you wrote "considering their ties to government agencies" and the FBI > > >> is a government agency. > > >> --Gravis > > > > > > Sorry, no. FBI, NSA and US as a whole is a hostile government. > Cooperation is forbidden by law (at least for normal citizens). Please do a > realitycheck outside US. > > > > Right! Cooperation is against Free Open Source Software natural laws and > declared customs! > > > > Nik > > > > > > -- > > > Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also > sharing with the NSA. > > > > I really like this line! > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Dng mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > _______________________________________________ > > Dng mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > Pls. bear in mind, if I'm missing to reply to you (but I might be late, > my health is unstable and I generally work slowly, old age)... [If I'm > missing to reply to you], it could be another prank of my dear regime... > > And greetings here to golinux, who is a fine person, and you know, > golinux, I miss edbarx, keithpeter and other who conversed met with on > Debian Forums, and I hope many of them will soon join us in Devuan. > -- > Miroslav Rovis > Zagreb, Croatia > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > >
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