Hi Jude,

thanks for the bunch of information, especially the various project
links, this brings some light to my questions.

To get a feeling about the status quo, I will start playing with the
vagrant image and then be back here.

For the infrastructure things, I will follow up directly in gitlab.

Regards

Udo

On 03/16/2015 11:30 PM, Jude Nelson wrote:
> Hi Udo,
> 
> I'm not part of the VUA, and what I'm about to say is by no means
> comprehensive or official.
> 
> I'd say things are looking up for Devuan:
> * The Devuan package repository is available at
> http://apt.devuan.org/devuan.  I think the current plan is to mirror
> Debian's repositories and copy in Devuan's systemd-free variants (i.e.
> for util-linux, dbus, etc.).
> * There's an i386 Vagrant image released for pre-alpha testing
> (see 
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-vagrant).
> * There's a Devuan SDK available that lets you build Devuan installer
> ISOs in a fairly straight-forward manner, as well as manage builds of
> Devuan-specific packages.
> 
> Also, I think a lot of the development conversation has moved to IRC. 
> The logs are at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/
> 
> There are also some interesting projects aimed at building long-term
> replacements for systemd components:
> * LoginKit (replaces systemd-logind).
>  https://git.devuan.org/pkgs-utopia-substitution/loginkit
> * libsysdev (replaces libudev).  https://github.com/idunham/libsysdev
> * vdev (replaces udevd).  https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev  (DISCLAIMER:
> I'm the author)
> 
> Insofar as what needs doing, there's a pre-alpha ISO floating around
> (Valentine pre-alpha), and the Vagrant image could always use more
> testing and bug reports.  There's also a list of infrastructure to-dos
> here: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/todo/issues.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> -Jude
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Udo Rader <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi,
> 
>     short preface: the idea of systemd running on our ~100 servers causes me
>     more than serious headache and so, like many others, I am interested in
>     having a viable alternative to this madness.
> 
>     Unfortunately I was not very successful finding out how Devuan is doing
>     - despite having done my homework digging both through the website and
>     the ML archives. The best I came up with is the announcement of a spring
>     (alpha?) release.
> 
>     I am not asking the evil "when will it be done" question, instead I am
>     asking how I could possibly help to get things going :)
> 
>     You could very likely call me a Linux veteran with almost 20 years
>     playing the game and in a (now very remote) past I even did some
>     packaging for Mandriva. For the past 10 years almost every server we
>     have been provisioning is based on Debian and so I know that beast quite
>     well, but I have never been involved with Debian as an organization.
> 
>     My daily job is devops oriented, with the dev side focusing mostly on
>     Java and the ops side planning and partially maintaining our
>     infrastructure.
> 
>     So what are the areas that require additional help?
> 
>     Regards
> 
>     Udo
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