On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:40:43 -1000 Joel Roth <jo...@pobox.com> wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote: > > What would especially float my boat, once there's a truly > > depoetterized Devuan, is to have the package manager warn me at 160 > > decibles if I decide to install something that pulls in any systemd > > code, because if there's a way to run without systemd code, that's > > how I want to run, even if it means someday I can no longer use > > Gnumeric or Gimp. > > > > Let me give an analogy that's absolutely offtopic here, I use it > > only as an analogy. Three years ago, I made a policy that no KDE > > library or software would ever exist on any of Troubleshooters.Com > > computers, any computers owned by Steve Litt, or any computers > > owned by family members who expected me to be their IT department. > > For the most part, I simply never install a package beginning with > > "k". But once in a while I install an excellent sounding package, > > only to see it starting to pull in KDE Krap, have to Ctrl+C out of > > it, and then go back and painstakingly remove everything my install > > put there. My life would have been easier if the package manager > > told me THIS PACKAGE HAS KDE REQUIREMENTS, PROCEED N/y. > > apt-get gives a list of packages to be installed, and how > many MB of software is involved. That is a good solution > for 90% if not 99% of users. > > If you really want to avoid KDE|systemd|bloatware > Probably you could hack apt using pining or similar > technique to prevent bloatware-base from ever being > installable, thereby preventing any bloatware based > libraries from being installed. > > In that case, it wouldn't be optional. > > I think apt-get sources are perl, so should be > easy to hack on. > > Cheers, > > Joel Hi Joel, I'm sure everything you say above is true (I'm not positive because I'm not a package manager authority), and that's great for the use case of my personal hatred of KDE. In the case of Devuan, systemd is a special case, indeed, the reason for Devuan's existance, so I think a no brainer, idiot lite solution would be appropriate for systemd, so that even those, like me, who know nothing but "apt-get install great_sounding_app" get warned. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng