On Thu 09 April 2015 02:20:16 hellekin wrote: >> *** I see another two groups: people who want to work together and build > something different that won't end up in an isolated technical committee > in their ivory towers, and bullies.
Sorry that's not to the point. Nobody at all talked about "technical committee" whether isolated or not. It's a *fact* that developers won't pay attention to ML or even fora that have a bad S/N ratio, since devels are interested in getting thing *done*, not *discussed* and derailed. And you won't force any devel to do such discussion "in public" and waste 90% of their time to act as 1st level helpdesk for users who <quote>"want to ask how to configure their desktop"</quote> You're trying to enforce an organizational rule (no TC) by means of a communication medium - it won't work, it never did (at least I never seen it pan out). Call me bully for that if you like, I don't care. And I prolly will cancel my registration for that ML for exactly the reasons of poor S/N, same reasons I never been happy to linger on #debianfork. And I bet a lot of devels already did same or are going to do so soonish. The discussion if we need a devel-ML is the best proof that we urgently need one where such discussion never would happen. /j
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