On 04/06/15 17:08, KatolaZ wrote:
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:42:49AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:

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But Debian does allow the installation of nonfree drivers.  And, if I
recall correctly last time I installed (a long, long time ago), it did
ask the question.

We want the reputation of rejecting monolithic blocks of horrible code
when that is practical, and in the case of systemd, we want to show
that it is practical, and even beneficial.

We don't want to  give the impression that without systemd, video card
performance is the pits.

This is the standard policy in Debian, AFAIK:

https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware#Firmware_during_the_installation

The debian installer does *not* provide non-free firmware but allows
the user to provide it in a separete medium (e.g.,a USB stick) and the
installer will ask during installation if the user wants to use that
firmware.

There is a *separate* netinst CD which includes non-free firmware for
network adapters, and no more. It is made available, but it is *not*
the default netinst, and marked as *unofficial*.

I honestly don't mind about a journalist complaining about the fact
that Devuan does not supply third-party non-free drivers for his video
card, because a substantial majority of the distributions, including
also Debian, do the same (i.e., they do *not* provide non-free drivers
upon installation).

HND

KatolaZ


Hello KatolaZ,

Since Devuan is clearly a fork of Debian, does it have to respect Debian policy and follow what Debian does?

I don't think the approach suggested in this thread will make Devuan the same as Ubuntu. The approach is basically just to ease up the net-install process for the users if I am not wrong.

Cheers,

Anto

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