On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:23:30PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:00:27 +0200 > Didier Kryn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Devuan is not opposed to kdbus, nor even to systemd. People here > > want the freedom to not use systemd; they don't deny others the right > > to use it, nor to use kdbus. > > Devuan was created out of a dislike of systemd. When you say "People > here want the freedom to not use systemd; they don't deny others the > right", we're not going to deliberately and maliciously put booby traps > against systemd in Devuan. > Of course not! That is software malpractice.
> But I hope neither you nor others interpret this as our spending a > microsecond of development time making systemd use easier. Nor that we > add even one config option to ease use of systemd. I hope nobody is > suggesting that we in the slightest inconvenience a normal Devuan user > to accommodate this hypothetical person who wants to put systemd on > Devuan, instead of using Debian. What is plausible, though, is to use conditional compilation or other tools to make systemd optional when we modify the source code for a package. This could increase the chance that upstream will accept our changes and simplify our long-term maintenance burden. > > There are probably 30 official major binary distributions[1] defaulting > to systemd. There's 1 official major binary distribution defaulting to > something else: Devuan. Devuan's priority must be to provide a > sans-systemd OS, not diluted by the irrelevant "freedom" of installing > systemd on it. Excellent. -- hendrik _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
