On Monday, August 10, 2015 07:32:40 PM Steve Litt wrote: > Hi golinux, > > I base this reply on the assumption that the idea of a base > system is relevant only to the initial install, and that Debian would > certainly continue to have packages for xorg, Xfce, LXDE, Openbox, > *box, Windowmaker, IceWM, and of course, for those who like to boot > straight to GUI, lightdm.
Yes that is exactly what I meant, Steve. I'm just looking at the standpoint of rather than trying to work on the entire repository at once, that the world could be done in sections. I personally think that Devuan *should* be done differently that Debian, and segregated up into smaller divisions, with a more specific focus for each: KDE, XFCE, mailserver, webserver - whatever. Special teams could provide a really quality experience for each by having a user/task oriented focus rather than the hodge-podge that is Debian. Rather than providing 20 options for each thing, I would rather see 5 options that work out of the box without my having to muck about for 2-3 days to get everything working together. Debian tries to do everything and be everything. As a result, they seldom do any one thing very well. Many times I have to tweak something just so it behaves properly. To me at least, the end goal with software is not a "bazaar" approach with dozens of choices, only half maintained. It is to take a few things and refine them so that they are useful to a task: stable and ubiquitous, and more valuable as whole. Software is a tool, not an end to itself. Take KDE4 is an example. The desktop is nice, but each iteration still has longstanding Plasma bugs as they add new features. I would rather see them fix what is broken on their DE first: Kmail, etc before going out of their way to create a new version of Plasma - in this case Plasma 5 - with an entirely new set of problems. > > If my assumption is correct, the only way making the base install tiny > affects you is that you do the following instead of one big install: > > * base install > * apt-get install xorg > * apt-get install xterm (if not installed by xorg) > * apt-get install Xfce (or whatever) > * apt-get install lightdm In this, we agree wholeheartedly. Building in layers rather than just one big slop means that you can test each carefully, and do a much better job. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
