On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 05:18:32 -0400, fsmithred wrote in message <[email protected]>:
> On 04/23/2017 07:13 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:54:07 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > > <[email protected]>: > > > >> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 02:21:53 +1000, Ralph wrote in message > >> <[email protected]>: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Arnt Karlsen wrote on 19/04/17 23:17: > >>> [cut] > >>>> > >>>> ...wiped udev off my box and wound up with a box that boots oh > >>>> soo fine until it tries to load my new vdev > >>>> initrd.img-4.9.0-2-rt-amd64 ...am I the first one here to try > >>>> this on a rt kernel? > >>>> > >>>> ..recovery ideas? Do we have any vdev live-cd? > >>>> > >>>> ..last time I did this stunt, I chrooted in off a Knoppix? iso, > >>>> I have memdisk and a few iso links handy in /boot, and Debian's > >>>> Sid vmlinuz-4.8.0-2-amd64, vmlinuz-4.8.0-2-rt-amd64 and > >>>> vmlinuz-4.9.0-1-rt-amd64 with systemd-udev initrd's, but they all > >>>> depend on a working install of udev AFAIK, and I'd prefer pushing > >>>> thru with vdev rather than going back to udev. > >>>> > >>>> ..has anyone here tried downgrading to Debian Wheezy era udev? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ..looking for recovery live-cd idea starting points, I came > >>>> across 32-bit > >>>> https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/zz02debiandogwheezy.html > >>>> which could work both as a starting point for a live-cd and as a > >>>> starting point for an upgrade path for stuck Debian Wheezy people > >>>> via "Devuan-0.x Wheezy" to current Devuan-1.x Jessie. > >>>> > >>>> ..according to https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/ "DebianDog > >>>> is very small Debian Live CD shaped to look and act like Puppy > >>>> Linux. Debian structure and Debian behaviour are untouched and > >>>> Debian documentation is 100% valid for DebianDog. You have > >>>> access to all debian repositories using apt-get or synaptic.", > >>>> creating "Devuan-0.x Wheezy Live-CD" etc is trivial, toss their > >>>> repos for ours, update, upgrade and remaster, the 64-bit version > >>>> likely needs to be built off deb-src lines. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ..but first comes the classic chicken-and-egg 64 bit recovery > >>>> I need now. ;o) > >>>> > >>> > >>> I'm not sure it helps you, but I've made a vdev variant of most > >>> recent devuan_jessie_RC_amd64_minimal_live.iso (time stamped > >>> 2017-Mar-27 20:57) that I got from the official mirror > >>> http://mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/devuan/ > >>> > >>> I purged a couple of things from it, then added and installed > >>> "my" vdev_0.1.1_amd64.deb, and made a refractasnapshot of this, > >>> into devuan_jessie_RC_amd64_minimal_live_vdev.iso, which is > >>> downloadable at https://www.uk.realsam.co.uk/files/devuan/ > >>> > >>> It boots with vdev rather than udev, and udev remains installed, > >>> though with all its "competing" files tucked away. As you might > >>> know, this vdev packaging is different from aitor's packaging for > >>> gnuinos by not declaring a udev competition, but rather attempting > >>> to manage a dynamic choice of which one is in use. The software is > >>> otherwise the same, I believe. > >> > >> ..thanks, we shall find out. ;o) > > > > ..no joy this far, vdev does not work with any of my installed > > kernels, neither my dpkg variant of your vdev-assistant nor your > > original restores udev, so I'm stuck with live-CDs when I need to > > go online to chk things to read up on. > > > > ..you packaged your vdev differently than aitor, do I then use > > your deb(-src) lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out > > his? > > > > ..another approach is ignore apt and dpkg, and simply drop in all > > files with tar or cpio or somesuch, haven't done that kinda stunt > > since my RH-5.2 days. > > > > ..if that fails, are you able to build me an old fashion monster > > monolithic kernel with nouveau, vdev and everything else compiled > > into the kernel, and not as modules, that I can boot without an > > initrd? > > Big size is no problem, I have 8GB ram, but no build box. > > > > ..if not, what do I need to build a vdev kernel myself on my > > box running your devuan_jessie_RC_amd64_minimal_live_vdev.iso? > > > > > > I don't know if this would be of any help to you, but I have a vdev > live iso that I made using Ralph's vdev packages back in October. > After reading this thread, I decided to install it and upgrade to the > 4.9rt kernel. It boots normally. > > What I can't seem to do is make a bootable iso with the 4.9rt, even > after upgrading live-boot, et. al. to the ascii versions. (There's a > problem with the bpo versions of live-boot missing some parts in the > initrd related to overlayfs and nls_ascii). > > If you want to try the October live iso, let me know. ..yup, url? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
