Le 24/08/2017 à 01:01, John Franklin a écrit :
On Aug 22, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Dave 
Turner<dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk>  wrote:

There's a lot of heavy discussion going on in

'Proposed change to ascii' and 'an alternative to renaming'

But what does Linus do? How does he think this should play out?

I am a big fan of 'going with the flow' apart from when it is a really bad idea 
such as systemd.
Agreed.  Those two discussions have long since outlived their usefulness and 
the petty bickering is going to scare away people.

The second thread was a fork (by me) of a previous thread on the best way to perform network interface renaming. Unfortunately it contained two subjects.

My main subject was questionning the necessity of renaming network interfaces (with my answer to the question). Since nobody argumented that renaming was necessary, it is clear for me that renaming is a feature invented to give more importance to Udev and isn't necessary at all.

The OT subjet was about Mdev (a KISS hotplugger) and wether it was sufficient. Several technical advices have been provided on the subject, plus too many digressions. Maybe all usable technical advices have been collected and I will have to compile them and compare them with available online documents. I must thank the people who gave technical insights on the matter.

For your thread, I have the personnal impression that the fashion, a decade ago, was to delegate to userspace as much as possible of the OS tasks. Unfortunately all the work of developping the userspace servers has been taken over by RedHat in a bad way and, because of that, Linus is now taking it back into the kernel, because he doesn't want to participate in userspace. Of course he will never tell it that way.

    Didier


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