On Mon, 06 Nov 2017, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 06/11/2017 à 00:33, Clarke Sideroad a écrit :
> > Sounds like a healthy expansion to me, congratulations in arriving > > at it. Caretaker leaves an impression in my head of everything > > from a god like science fiction entity to a custodian/janitor. So > > plenty of scope. (-; > This invention reminds me of the novel of Philip K Dick "Clans > of the Alphane Moon", in which the moon is governed by the council > "sine qua non" ;-) ahahah, yes indeed our council includes all clans: pares manses heebs etc etc... jokes aside, the "Caretakers" term is really there to indicate stewardship more than leadership, as part of a soft transition towards a governance that must and will always serve the Devuan community. as Clask also mentions: > I'm not sure of the actual structural form envisioned for Devuan. > There has to be some vertical structure and a group of 'n' at the > top, it is IMHO unavoidable. the actual structure envisioned is "in fieri" with a good starting point from the Debian's principles which were harshly betrayed: keep minimal and serve the interest of its users (including downstream distros!). I also think that, despite the initial negative response of this community to the "purpy book" by hellekin and natacha, some good principles about the process of establishing governamentability can be found in there. as "caretakers" we should be facilitating the implementation of the uncontroversial choices this community approves and in general dedicate a lot of attention to "regression" implications, as we do need to "take care that what is there still works". This is also well attuned to the concern many of us share here to efficently support existing hardware against consumerist practices and to optimise energy and resource usage when planning an IT infrastructure. thus "caretakers" are really fairly conservative experts who show good understanding of minimalism and UNIX principles and are highly available through the making of Devuan. We are not supposed to "propose features", rather than being able to listen and summarise well what our community wants from us. Only in highly conflictual cases we'll run a vote which will anyway require a majority of 4 to 5. So far all decisions were taken with complete consensus and a long yet useful process of listening everyone's concerns especially with regards to the current infrastructure upgrade. My gratitude goes to all of you for encouraging us, to Linux O'Beardly and Nextime for reliably hosting core parts of our infrastructure through the years (we are now almost 3 years old!), to all the growing community of mirrors (now also package mirrors!) and of course to all the people donating money to the project: we'll soon update our financial report to reflect its status, as Devuan's funds are being used to rebuild Devuan's online infrastructure as a network of secure machines that are entirely paid by Devuan's donations and sponsors. ciao _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
