Hi Jaromil, list, Jaromil writes:
> dear John and Olaf, > > Thanks for proving me wrong, this is exactly what I hoped for. > > In fact my mail was perhaps badly worded and contained already a rant, > but was really about asking this list for a critical analysis. For 2 > main reasons: 1) there are very knowledgeable people (like you both) > that often are capable of checking better than me 2) I am a lazy wolf > and prefer writing a mail than checking myself. Reading back the mail that started all of this, yes, that one was not that "alarmist". The follow-up got a bit more so. Those things happen as thread tend to drift. I'll try to make a habit of re-reading the initial post before "venting" a reply. > I also note as you point out that this behavior may be > counterproductive for the public perception of this project: a way or > another I also represent Devuan and maybe I should hold off this > attitude and post only things that I am sure of. This is difficult for > me, since I conceive spaces for debate as this and other mailinglists > as spaces where to share doubts, fears, needs and dreams even more > than findings and announcements, for which an article or a twit > @DevuanOrg may be better. > > anyway, point taken. I know well that I'm wrong sometimes, just like > now. So now I agree that considering this and the other discussion > about redis, there is no real "vandalism" happening in Debian. About > redis was just a maintainer fumbling around broken scripts through > releases, while the rc.local case its just that people don't care > about the regressions introduced by systemd. Glad you realize this and glad you say so on the list. We should all practice a bit of restraint, do some minimal research and include references before making "wild claims". As a Debian Care Taker, you should perhaps take care even more ;-) > [...] Thanks and keep up the good work, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2 FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software https://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng