On 28 February 2018 at 08:03, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> With actions like these I can't understand why some people think it is
> weird for me to believe that SystemD is a conspiracy to weaken computer
> security, they are constantly trying to force people to use it with shady
> crap like this.
>
> Why after all would every distro that prides on being different suddenly
> adapt the exact same init system? just because? I can't believe why the US
> government is fine with a foreign national pulling the computer security
> rug out from under them - despite claims of systemd being the TLA's doing
> they are still using it!
>
> SystemD systems take minutes to boot even without the bogus "start/stop
> job running for *thing*" whereas devuan takes 15 seconds, it isn't better
> in any way but the so called experts of the world clamor for it and insist
> your thoughts on the matter don't matter - the same people who think that a
> non-owner controlled MS "secure" boot is just fine because oh hey a MS
> signed grub comes with RHEL.
>
> _
>

There's definitely an agenda, be it hidden or not. Redhat is leading this
and they always claim to lead the open source movement. You can see hear
this a lot in any of their events, however I think this is getting out of
hand, there's an OSS project which I'm trying to contribute to, and
recently I saw a pull request which changes installation docs, asking to
use 5-6 unit files instead of a 5 liner cron file. On another project I'm
working on (sadly on RHEL7) when I unmount a mount point with a bash script
systemd tries to remount the mount points and doesn't honour the fstab,
because, apparently it makes its own copy of fstab ( a unit file) during
boot time, and when you reload it to re-create its unit file and fstab is
somehow not what it should be reboots the system to what we know as init 1.
So it's nothing to do with boot times, or init systems, it's about trying
to control and try to make systems work in their own way. And this usually
produces unexpected behaviour and hassle. Also I don't like software trying
to be clever because they mostly fail to be.

My 2 cents,
--
aldemir
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