On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 06:42:57PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 05:21:50PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 06:05:09AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > > I was recently suprised to observe network interfaces > > > (wlan0 and eth0) going up without my issuing commands for > > > it. I'd disable an interface, then see it go right back up. > > > > Joel, unfortunately this is the problem with "smart" tools for network > > management: they think they know what is good for you, all the > > time. Both wicd and nm are particularly bad at that, since they try to > > manage network state accordingto what they have been told in their > > config, despite anything. Dunno about conman, but I guess it works > > along the same lines. > > This is actually very puzzling: what we want, is a wrapper for iw which > seeks available wifi networks, and provides a GUI to choose one. The only > reason such a tool would ever look at eth0 is to see if its link is up, and > if so, skip wifi unless explicitly told to connect anyway. > > So why do authors of such tools feel the need to control the state of > non-wifi interfaces?
You can make nm to not handle interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces. Just ensure that /etc/Networkmanager/NetworkManager.conf contains: [main] plugins=ifupdown [ifupdown] managed=false I think this is default config anyway. Additionally there is a "keyfile" plugin which had a "unmanaged-devices" option. See manpage for details. -- gnuPG keyid: 8C2BAF51 fingerprint: 28EE 8438 E688 D992 3661 C753 90B3 BAAA 8C2B AF51
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