Hi!

I am considering to switch this main laptop from Debian Sid to Devuan 
Ceres for quire some time already. Right now I noticed I have another 
laptop where I can test this move first. On the second laptop, my 
jukebox for Hi-Fi equipment, issues are not as critical as on this one. 
I think I may test migrating there and see what happens. I may delay 
switching over the main laptop, a ThinkPad T520, to Devuan Ceres till 
Winter holidays or even later.

So or so I am really keen to hear about how Plasma works on Ceres. What 
are your experiences? I expect hardware to work just the same regarding 
drivers, but I compile my own kernels on this main laptop anyway.

How about integration of Plasma with other stuff?

- NetworkManager: On Debian it depends on libsystemd, but on Devuan 
Ascii is does not. So does it work fine on Devuan without libsystemd?

- What about Pulseaudio? On Devuan Ascii it depends on libsystemd. 
(Please no discussions on pro and contra Pulseaudio. I am aware of the 
arguments and I disliked Pulseaudio for a long time. Meanwhile it works 
just fine for me, while I still hope for something better to come along, 
maybe Pipewire, if it can run without Systemd stuff) If Pulseaudio does 
not work, what do you use for sound, pure ALSA, Jack? Do all your apps 
work with it? Firefox with ALSA has been an issue I think.

- How about plugable devices like USB sticks? Are they automatically 
detected in Plasma and ready to mount by click?

Any other experiences about what does work and what does not work?

Not everything has to work perfectly, but the desktop has to work good 
enough to get actual work done without too much interference and also be 
able to hear sound with all applications, including even a game with 
uses OpenAL. Also the production laptop works in many different network 
environments and has to basically work with ethernet, with authenticated 
ethernet (using WPA Supplicant), in different WLANs and occasionally 
also on mobile broadband provided by phone connected with USB (but can 
also open WLAN access point in case USB modem thing would not work).

It is unusual that I use Debian Sid on a production laptop, but I feel 
comfortable with it, as it generally works and most issues are usually 
quite temporary or can be worked around easy enough. How are your 
experiences on Devuan Ceres? I bet it has similar stability and similar 
temporary breakages as Debian Sid?

(I kindly ask you to keep any ranting out of this. I navigate both 
Debian and Devuan communities and have friends with both. If that makes 
me an enemy for you, then please just ignore my mail and be done with 
it.)

Thank you,
-- 
Martin


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