On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:44:33PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 08:24:45PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > But *what* exactly are you claiming is "calling home"? Do you have any > > real example of what you say or the rant just spilled off the tinfoil > > hat? > > > > Please stop spreading FUD. If you don't need ssh, mail, or whatever > > otherq service, just `apt-get remove --purge` them. > > The problem is that a number of unexpected programs call home. Just one > example: clementine, a nice music player. By default, it contacts a > crapload of servers to grab song lyrics, last.fm (whatever that is) play > counts, something something "scrobbler" (?), and so on. That's for regular > 100% local .mp3/.ogg/.opus files.
I have no idea of what that is, but since it's a music player I am pretty sure it is not started "at boot", and from a strictly technical point of view it is not "calling home", rather contacting external services (unless it has been developed by last.fm). > > Or, our oh-so-beloved init virus -- its "networkd" part, if it fails to > obtain a DNS resolver via DHCP, the resolver responds slowly during probing, > or is otherwise temporarily unavailable -- networkd will then send to Google > information about every single TCP connection you make (as next to no user > programs cache DNS queries). > That's a systemd component, which is not present in Devuan. As such, it might be your problem if you use systemd, but not ours. And again, from a strictly technical point of view, it's not "calling home", rather using an external service without notifying the user. Which is very bad, but it's not "calling home": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoning_home since systemd is not developed by google (at least not overtly). We should be *very* careful about what we claim, and the words we use. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
_______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
