On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:25:36PM +0000, chillfan--- via Dng wrote:
> Of the most stupid thing to happen over an upgrade.. Debian have forcibly 
> broken a security feature. Which is to say, don't expect your firewall to 
> still be functioning when you upgrade to Buster. And expect it to cause 
> network failure.
> 
> Short story, I upgraded an ascii system to Beowulf since Buster is now 
> entering soft freeze if Debian have kept to their timetable. But surprise of 
> all surprises, my network isn't working.
> 
> Why? Because I restore my _iptables_ rules when bringing up interfaces. 
> Apparently you must now use nftables and this was causing the ifupdown 
> scripts to fail failure because the if-up script returns a failure.
> 
> As far as I can see iptables is now called 'iptables-legacy' and 'iptables' 
> actually uses nft. But btw, iptables is not deprecated in the kernel at all.
> 
> nft is very counter intuitive and nowhere near as simple as iptables, 
> actually I'd need a day off and then some to learn it. Before someone thinks 
> it it yes I know about the conversion tool but that's useless when you know 
> something sucks and you just don't want it to begin with.
> 

chillfan, I have several beowulf machines and all use iptables, and
none of them has had that issue. Maybe I have not apt-get updated
recently. Could it just be a quirk of if-up?  Shall we try to track
the issue down?


On another note: before a useless ranftul flame gets started, please
note that as chillfan said iptables is not going away from the Linux
kernel.

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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