On 8/1/19 12:26 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
Anyway, if this is a suggestion to yank all nonfree out of Devuan and call it something else, that's fine with me. As a matter of fact, Devuan could slowly, selectively and judiciously make the same substitutions as the child distro.
There's not really anything to yank out. Don't have a non-free repo and don't put non-free firmware on the installer isos. They probably also want to use a libre kernel. This is not a difficult task, and gnuinos already does this.
If devuan ever provides a free/libre repo and release, it will be in addition to the one that provides non-free firmware for the same reasons you state below. This is something that's been discussed at meetings several times, and I think we're all in agreement.
But if the suggestion is to yank out nonfree and call it Devuan, for practical purposes that would make Devuan unbootable for a lot of people. Malfunctions during boot can have causes depending on tens or hundreds of factors, many hidden away. It's a bridge too far to expect someone booting up a distro for the first time to 1) Know all his hardware, 2) Know exactly what drivers and firmware to use, 3) Know where to find those drivers and firmware, 4) Know all the commands to correctly load those drivers and firmware from a thumb drive, and 5) Have enough spare time to go through all this.
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