Il 16/09/20 08:11, Steve Litt ha scritto: > On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:41:19 +0000 > A Nilsson <n...@chalmers.se> wrote: > >>> From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Bruce >>> Perens via Dng Sent: den 14 september 2020 06:23 >> >>> Systemd and so on are symptoms of the Unix design not really being >>> a good fit for modern demands. >> >> It is important to specify whose demands we are talking about. >> >> The underlying interests of end users and of system administrators >> are remarkably different from those of commercial actors. The latter >> ones are highly motivated, by their nature, to monopolize the control >> over the technical platform. Unix indeed was not designed with this >> purpose in mind. > > I couldn't have said it better. > > In addition, I don't see why Unix design isn't a good fit for modern > demands. Edward and Aitor have already made do-one-thing-and-do-it-well > graphical automounters that, as far as I know, depend on neither > systemd nor dbus. I once posted, on this list, a thumb drive plugin > detector/mounter, and somebody else on the list improved on it.
Hi, we should team up with other distributions that are no-systemd, e.g pclinuxos (but there are others debian based) which have resolved this problems already having various flavors of full-fledged DEs. This would reduce effort duplication, ensure that the code is maintained and give the needed man power. > Relatively speaking, I don't think a Network-manager replacement would > be difficult to build, although I never finished with my attempt. > > Speaking of Netowrk manager, am I the only one who hates it messing > with /etc/resolv.conf? This feature could be disabled by adding this to the [main] section: dns=none in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf You know what I'd like? I'd like > /etc/resolv.conf to be a symlink to one of many files, such as > resolv.dhcp, which *could* be modified by the network manager, and all > sorts of others that can be switched in and out by a shellscript. Most > folks would just use the symlink to resolv.dhcp, but folks like us > could actually put our own unbound on our laptops and use a > resolv.unbound or something like that. > > A Nilsson, you're right: for the commercial actors, Linux is just like > the cars from the 1950's: Change the fins and create a whole new reason > to trade in. And the Appeal to Novelty is much stronger today than it > was in the 1950's. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt Ciao, Tito _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng