On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:10:07AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 23:41:58 +0100
> Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Le 23/12/2020 à 22:03, Antony Stone a écrit :
> > > If the kernel decides A=eth1, B=eth2, C=eth0 then there's no way
> > > for udev rules to rename them, because "File exists" (which should
> > > of course say "Device name exists").  
> > 
> >     This should not happen and did not happen in the past because the
> > interfaces are created sequentially. 
> 
> Yes it did. It happened in the 1900's. We were all advised never to use
> the same type of network card for both interfaces, because which card
> became eth0 would be indeterminate. I had eth0 magically switch to
> eth1, and then back again, several times.

I remember those days.  I has two different network cards, and things were 
cnveniently consistent except when I did am upgrade to a new release.  Then, 
and only them, might they switch places.

Instead of reconfiguring everything, I just switched network cables.

This no longer works today.  I've introduced new consistent names -- something 
line neth0 and neth1.

And they seem no longer to be considered to be devices.  They are not present 
in /dev.

Do the deep innards of the kernel still consider them devices even though 
they are no longer present in /dev?  Is this an effect of the devtmpfs 
file system??

-- hendrik

> 
> Earlier in this thread I submitted a shellscript that fixes this whole
> problem, without all sorts of udev raindances.
> 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt 
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