On Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 05:02:32PM -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> On 2021-01-01 19:07, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 
> > It is that intermediate window manager that was responsible for border 
> > sized and so forth.  It couldn't draw the borders -- it wasn't attached 
> > to a screen.  It just told the server what to draw.
> 
> Yes, of course. That is what I meant. Nonetheless, the _server_ (ie. the
> Xorg daemon) is the ultimate source of truth on the locations on
> windows. The WM asks Xorg for that information.

Make sense.  Things are not as clear-cut these days as to who dies what 
whan they're all on the same computer.
> 
> I contributed code to openbox - be careful who you're talking to :-P

Nice.

My ancient experience with X was working on the team developing UIM/X in 
the days before Linux.  I spent some time reading a manual caalled 
something like ICCCCC (maybe ICCCM?) about communications between these 
various network components, though I never had to do any coding directly 
with that communication.

I remember once working with a really charming little X terminal.  I no 
longer know what model it was.  Hard to find such a thing nowadays, but 
I use my laptop as one when I want to run elsewhere.

Software really isn't kind to using it via networked ssh -X these days.  
Running Chromium on a remote machine is terrible when it does animated 
scrolling.  It transmits all those successive bitmaps one by one and 
doesn't look animated at all, just slow.

-- hendrik

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