I will definitely run the mysql upgrade first.  I’m assuming i should do the 
mysql upgrade after I update the package lists with the beowulf lists.

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> On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Hector Gonzalez Jaime via Dng 
> <dng@lists.dyne.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 2/22/21 3:30 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
>>> On Monday 22 February 2021 at 22:26:17, Hector Gonzalez Jaime via Dng wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've seen your original problem frequently, mysql and mariadb both are
>>> turned off during upgrades, and then apt-get goes on to install other
>>> packages, which might require a database to be running and have no
>>> control over this.  A workaround is, whenever you have mysql (or
>>> mariadb) present, update it first and alone, like this:
>>> 
>>> apt-get update
>>> apt-get install default-mysql-server      # this command depends on your
>>> version, just reinstall mysql's server first.
>>> apt-get upgrade
>>> apt-get dist-upgrade
>>> 
>>> This way mysql gets updated first, and will be running for the rest of
>>> your system.
>> I like that - it sounds like an excellent tip (hard to see how it might be
>> included in an automated update process, but that would of course be even
>> better).
>> 
>> Have you ever mentioned this to the Debian project, to see whether they
>> consider this either to be a bug in the upgrade process, or at least a
>> workaround worth documenting for people doing the upgrade?
> I had only seen this with external packages, so, no, I've never mentioned it. 
>  I think if packages depend on a database of any kind to be updated, they 
> should wait for it to be done before they run their scripts, but then again, 
> the database might not even be configured to run in the same system.
>> 
>> Antony.
>> 
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