On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:45:49AM +0000, g4sra via Dng wrote: > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 5:42 AM, Simon Walter <si...@gikaku.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan. > > The reason I wanted to do this is because the packages are available in > > the default repos. > > > > > After installing it on an fresh Beowulf installation, it does not run > > and to my knowledge will never be able to w/o systemd sockets. > > > > > So, may I suggest that it is removed from the default repos, as it is > > misleading for beginners and may lead to unnecessary bug reports. > > > > > IIRC, the policy is not to remove anything related, but use stubs and > > let the user deal with half-broken software (ie. GNOME). Cockpit doesn't > > (currently) have dependencies on systemd and it's modules, but it > > requires a systemd socket to function. So, AFAICT, it is not even > > partially usable. > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Simon > > > > > I sympathise, but am not sure this would (currently) be the best use of > resources. > There is an ever growing list of packaged applications that do not function > without SystemD. > If every one were identified, then removal of all from the repos may be > justified. > Who is going to volunteer to be the Devuan developer that continuously > performs this duty ? > > I see this as being the work for a downstream distribution, to take the > freedom that Devuan provides and tailor it (reducing choice) for a specific > target use.
There should be soe way of warning potential users once it has been discovered that a package is useless. We're wasting their time otherwise. -- hendrik _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng