On 11/25/21 17:11, Steve Litt wrote: [snip]
Imagine if they made a car with the engine compartment welded shut, and gave you a little cockpit in the passenger compartment to control a robot inside the engine compartment that would do maintenance and repairs.
That's not too far off from new cars as they are today. They are lousy with sensors and everything is tied directly or indirectly to the dealer, either through proprietary programs + proprietary protocols or service contracts or both. You can't change your own oil though I think changing the wiper blades on your own is still allowed. And by "you" I mean the ostensible owner or an independent repair shop. The cars are not recognized as computer systems, but as Cory Doctorow pointed out they are a computer you put your body into. I have only a weak grasp of the situation, having kept my head in the sand as long as I could, but I think two non-excusive approaches to solving the car software / protocol problem might be through software liability (as outlined by Geer and Kamp [1]) and through the ongoing attempts to restore the "right to repair" as led by Rossmann [2], in particular the latter which is picking momentum in regards to heavy farm equipment. /Lars [1] Transcript, "Cybersecurity as Realpolitik", Dan Geer: http://geer.tinho.net/geer.blackhat.6viii14.txt Video: https://youtu.be/nT-TGvYOBpI "The Software Industry IS STILL the Problem: The time is (also) way overdue for IT professional liability" Poul-Henning Kamp (2021) https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3487019.3489045 "The Software Industry IS the Problem: The time has come for software liability laws." Poul-Henning Kamp (2011) https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2030258 [2] https://www.fighttorepair.org/ _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng