> On 21 Dec 2021, at 07:37, Steve Litt <[email protected]> wrote: > > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:49:59 +0900 > > > >> >> ACK. I really wish the xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin dependency were >> downgraded to a Recommends:. Note to self, submit a bugreport! >> >> # Don't mind if someone else beats me to it. If so, submit to Debian >> # BTS cuz this ain't no Devuan bug. >> >> While I agree that marking all dependencies of xfce4 is a PITA, the >> list is not all that long. Even if it were >> >> sudo apt-mark manual \ >> $(dpkg-query -W -f '${Depends}\n' xfce4 >> | sed 's/([^)]*)//g; s/,//g') >> >> should do the trick. >> >> Warning: Check the output of the command in $() before feeding it to >> apt-mark. If there's any `|` in there, DON'T feed it to apt-mark. >> >> After that you can, in theory, >> >> apt purge xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin >> >> without losing your xfce4 dependencies. >> >> URK! Dogfooding this, I am told that another 150+ are going to be >> purged, most likely because of task-desktop and task-xfce-desktop being >> automatically installed. >> >> Hmm, doesn't look as easy as I first thought. > > About the only positive thing I can say about xfce is it's better than > Gnome, KDE and the now defunct Unity. Except compared to those, it's > not particularly lightweight, and my experience is it's been quirky on > Linux (but not OpenBSD) for the past decade, at least. There are so > many great WMDEs (Window Manager/Desktop Environment) that it's a shame > to use xfce. > > I use Openbox and have no problems, ever. When I take it on the road > and want a complete setup with panel, I use LXDE, which is a panel and > various programs to run with Openbox. If LXDE isn't available, LXQt is > almost as good. I have info on how to set it up at: > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/quickhacks.htm#startxlxqt > > Other outstanding WMDEs include fvwm, IceWM, Windowmaker, jwm, i9, and > a host of others. From my perspective, there's absolutely no reason to > use xfce. > > SteveT
I followed your guide for openbox and it’s quite nice, combined with tilda for console and tint2 for panel. Adding the 6 pixel left margin is a nice hack to always have access to the openbox menu even with full screen applications! Do you have any suggestions on a replacement for xfce4-appfinder that can search through .desktop files as well as $PATH? The nice thing about xfce4-appfinder is the two separate interfaces for searching .desktop (alt+F3) and $PATH (alt+F2). _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
