> From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <[email protected]> > > anyone who wants reliable connectivity testing
(should use monitor reflectors they 'own' including contracted services including paid for in kind) > This leaves out the case of "Mom & Pop monitoring". Of course, my > employer contracts for reliable monitoring targets. But the small > SOHO? No, it leaves out the case of goobers with monitors. Even the small SOHO needs relevant monitoring information instead of an equivalent of the familiar GWF "Your DNS server is attacking my firewall!" Pinging a distant reflector at an unknown location is sillier than pining the retroreflectors on the Moon to decide whether to carry an umbrella. https://www.google.com/search?q=moon+retro-reflectors The typical small SOHO user knows less about anycasting or ARIN's example.com sink hole and the implications of ping failures to them than where the Moon is. That a SOHO user can't reach Mom & Pop's Bait Shoppe & Ping Reflector, a DNS root, or the ARIN sink holes says nothing useful to practically any SOHO user, but will generate bogus trouble calls when things happen in distant intertubes. For example, during the recent GoDaddy kerfuffle, I got a message that fits that goober monitoring profile from a SOHO user who, like many users, knows a lot less about the Internet than she thinks she does, including being able to determine whether a web site is down. In almost every real world case, there's nothing the typical SOHO user should do about problems beyond the user's ISP, including reporting such problems. The SOHO user should care about pinging a router, DNS or HTTP server, or other reflector just beyond the user's home router. For extra credit and the rare, technically knowledgable SOHO user, it would be good to have a refector just beyond the user's ISP, perhaps at a nearby IPX. It's unfortunate that the SOHO user's ISP is probably the only entity that might find those reflectors for the user but will not and will probably actively resist. Helping SOHO users to ping the moon only makes things worse. Not to put too fine a point on it, I think anyone running a "Mom & Pop monitoring" reflector is pulling a stevegibson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Gibson_%28computer_programmer%29 Vernon Schryver [email protected] _______________________________________________ dns-operations mailing list [email protected] https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-operations dns-jobs mailing list https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-jobs
