Just a short update from our today meeting over PoC implementation. We have discussed this further and came to conclusion that the Kaminsky-attack on top of Shulman-attack is just limited to heavily populated zones (TLDs) or wildcard domains, since you need a positive response (since you cannot rewrite RCODE in the packet).
O. On 4. 9. 2013, at 15:08, Ondřej Surý <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > for all those who haven't been on saag WG at IETF 88... > > Amir Herzbert and Haya Shulman has presented a quite interesting attack on > UDP fragmentation that allows Kaminsky-style attacks to be real again. > > The saag presentation is here: > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/slides/slides-87-saag-3.pdf > > The paper describing the attack is here: > http://arxiv.org/pdf/1205.4011v1.pdf > > More Haya Shulman's publications can be found here: > https://sites.google.com/site/hayashulman/publications > > And some papers are also available from Google Scholar: > http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=Amir+Herzberg%2C+Haya+Shulman+++dnssec&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp= > > We gave it some thoughts here at CZ.NIC Labs and we think that the threat is > real and we are now trying to write a PoC code to prove the theoretical > concept. > > So what are the views of other people on this list? > > Ondrej > -- > Ondřej Surý -- Chief Science Officer > ------------------------------------------- > CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laboratoře CZ.NIC > Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic > mailto:[email protected] http://nic.cz/ > tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 > ------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > dns-operations mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-operations > dns-jobs mailing list > https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-jobs -- Ondřej Surý -- Chief Science Officer ------------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laboratoře CZ.NIC Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic mailto:[email protected] http://nic.cz/ tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 -------------------------------------------
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