On Oct 17, 2013, at 4:09 AM, Daniel Kalchev <dan...@digsys.bg> wrote:

> 
> On 17.10.13 00:12, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> Even small networks (I have a friend with a ~100 user wisp) shouldn't run 
>> their own caches. The economics of it don't support this.
>> 
> 
> Care to elaborate on this economic problem?
> 
> Just an reference point:
> Most of today's smartphones already have more resources than the DNS 
> resolvers many small ISPs already use and those ISPs don't suffer from any 
> kind of trouble because of that.
> And, these smartphones are considered disposable tech.

He's power/space constrained in some locations.  It's also not cheap to get 
equipment that will run in a shed at the base of a tower that's not climate 
controlled.  There is some hardware that could be used for this, but the cost 
of pointing at his upstream or someone else is much lower and reduces any 
possible OPEX on his side for it.

There's also the need for monitoring, care and feeding, etc..  100 subscribers 
and not a lot of profit means lack of capital to invest.  easier to just 
"outsource" to upstream/3rd party.  

Also, customer CPE equipment is poor and doesn't scale well for the current 
rate of DNS queries needed to load a webpage and the volume of devices now in 
the home.  Many pages will require 100+ elements or DNS queries to transact the 
basics.  This means tech support calls for "network is down or intermittent" 
that require hard-coding to work around the busted CPE gear. (e.g.: use these 
resolvers instead of those i just got from DHCP).  He's small so ends up making 
house calls to fix things for those that are unable to do it themselves.

- Jared
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