On Nov 7, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Edward Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've been studying TTL settings off and on for a few weeks, trying to decide 
> what are appropriate numbers.
> 
> In the past we taught the trade-off as - longer TTLs will reduce queries 
> while shorter TTLs will enable agility.
> 
> In looking at a set of data with a long TTL - 6 days - over a period of time 
> I noticed that 0.005% of all queriers respected the TTL setting I had.  I 
> don't want to fork over details, so you can even say "0.005% +/- 5%" and in 
> any case, it's small.  I'll admit by number here might be a little bit of an 
> undercount, still, it's little.
> 
> In experimenting with some recursive servers (and by no means an exhaustive 
> set), some code bases did adhere to the "rules" and some code bases seem to 
> ignore the "rules."  I say this to the extent that the collective set of 
> deployed tools out there pretty much are eating into the "longer TTLs will 
> reduce queries" part of the above trade-off.
> 
> I see that in the IETF there are drafts to pre-fetch expiring data sets - 
> which one can't argue with - but it makes, for an authoritative server 
> operator - even more uncertainty in planning TTLs.
> 
> And I'll throw in another factoid from history.  During DNSSEC workshops eons 
> ago, we found that is the TTLs got too low, DNSSEC had problems.  (Presumably 
> because it took longer to fetch the chain than the TTL of the queried data.)  
> Has anyone found a TTL to be too low for DNSSEC?
> 
> So, I'm turning to this list...what is a good range for TTLs?

I want to point out that some resolver implementation have a MAX_TTL value i.e. 
will not cache anything for more than certain value. 
One of the questions is what is a good value for MAX_TTL?

Unbound for example has set this to 1 day, no comment if that is a good choice 
but it is not a bad one. 

        Olafur

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