On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 09:57:15AM +0000, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
> 
> On Apr 4, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Dobbins, Roland <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > If customers are running older resolver code which sources queries from 
> > UDP/53, then this ACL will cause problems for them; utilizing flow 
> > telemetry to determine the likelihood of these corner-cases arising is very 
> > important, along with plans to proactively handle them without breaking the 
> > Internet for these customers.
> 
> If this is a significant problem, here're revised tACL stanzas which
> *must* be tested and piloted prior to general deployment.  Using
> flow-telemetry to determine whether the attack-source queries are sourced
> from high ports or from UDP/53 is strongly advised.

Hi Roland,

Thank you for this. As an additional datapoint, for this specific
deployment, there are two instances of PowerDNS. One serves a large number
of mobile (3G, 4G) users, the other a small number of DSL customers.

The mobile users create 0% problematic traffic, while for the far smaller
number of DSL users currently ~40% of queries are involved in this attack.

I think the difference is because the cell users can't accept inbound
traffic from the internet. 

        Bert

> 
> -----
> 
> access-list 101 remark Apply these stanzas inbound on coreward customer 
> aggregation gateway interfaces.
> access-list 101 remark Deny inbound traffic to UDP/53 on broadband customer 
> networks.
> access-list 101 remark Allow UDP/53-UDP/53 traffic for older customer 
> resolver code.
> access-list 101 permit udp any eq 53 172.19.25.0 0.0.0.255 eq 53
> access-list 101 deny udp any 172.19.25.0 0.0.0.255 eq 53
> access-list 101 remark Allow all other IP traffic to customer nodes - VERY 
> important!
> access-list 101 permit ip any 172.19.25.0 0.0.0.255
> 
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> 
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