Isn’t it more not copying the NS records into the GL zone so that the signer 
will generate the correct NSEC3 chain?
You could get away with missing this step pre-DNSSEC if parent and child where 
served by the same set of servers but
not now that DNSSEC exists and especially if the parent is signed.

Mark

> On 20 Jun 2023, at 16:13, Bill Woodcock <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the second-levels have been broken since the middle of last October.  
> CentralNIC unexpectedly created new delegation points for the second-level 
> domains, but has not yet copied the DS records down from the parent, nor 
> created new ones of their own.  We remind them of the issue periodically, but 
> no response thus far.
> 
>                                -Bill
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2023, at 4:23 AM, Viktor Dukhovni <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> The .GL TLD returns bogus NXDOMAIN responses to DS queries for:
>> 
>>   com.gl. IN DS ? ; NXDomain https://dnsviz.net/d/com.gl/ZJEMOQ/dnssec/
>>   gl. IN SOA a.nuuk.nic.gl. [email protected]. 2022119284 900 1800 6048000 
>> 3600
>>   gl. IN RRSIG SOA 8 1 900 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl.  [...]
>>   s2uojg57gtbj0m12ecau9csfd38ejndn.gl. IN NSEC3 1 1 10 504d114b 
>> SAGKR73F41OMFFI8TDE1CGHOQM502SIH NS SOA RRSIG DNSKEY NSEC3PARAM
>>   s2uojg57gtbj0m12ecau9csfd38ejndn.gl. IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 
>> 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>>   BBTTMJM743SRPQ6J4KQDIUC73E3C1HOA.gl. IN NSEC3 1 1 10 504d114b 
>> BSHTF866A32E02RJ617EUE8CCP45A6V4 NS DS RRSIG
>>   BBTTMJM743SRPQ6J4KQDIUC73E3C1HOA.gl. IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 
>> 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>>   6LJARAG1OKGTS55S0KMDAS442VDOTMTH.gl. IN NSEC3 1 1 10 504d114b 
>> 742MB65DHD2D8BG0846S1RKRER2E8CUB NS DS RRSIG
>>   6LJARAG1OKGTS55S0KMDAS442VDOTMTH.gl. IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 
>> 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>> 
>>   edu.gl. IN DS ? ; NXDomain https://dnsviz.net/d/edu.gl/ZJEKYw/dnssec/
>>   gl. IN SOA a.nuuk.nic.gl. [email protected]. 2022119284 900 1800 6048000 
>> 3600
>>   gl. IN RRSIG SOA 8 1 900 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>>   s2uojg57gtbj0m12ecau9csfd38ejndn.gl. IN NSEC3 1 1 10 504d114b 
>> SAGKR73F41OMFFI8TDE1CGHOQM502SIH NS SOA RRSIG DNSKEY NSEC3PARAM
>>   s2uojg57gtbj0m12ecau9csfd38ejndn.gl. IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 
>> 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>>   O3DN0L28MEKMTHMNP658AQ4UUG4CDHTP.gl. IN NSEC3 1 1 10 504d114b 
>> OE6EUSIJCPGO9R8RG0RO7Q9TPS7L9A46 NS DS RRSIG
>>   O3DN0L28MEKMTHMNP658AQ4UUG4CDHTP.gl. IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 
>> 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>>   6LJARAG1OKGTS55S0KMDAS442VDOTMTH.gl. IN NSEC3 1 1 10 504d114b 
>> 742MB65DHD2D8BG0846S1RKRER2E8CUB NS DS RRSIG
>>   6LJARAG1OKGTS55S0KMDAS442VDOTMTH.gl. IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 
>> 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>> 
>>   org.gl. IN DS ? ; NXDomain https://dnsviz.net/d/org.gl/ZJEMkg/dnssec/
>>   gl. IN SOA a.nuuk.nic.gl. [email protected]. 2022119284 900 1800 6048000 
>> 3600
>>   gl. IN RRSIG SOA 8 1 900 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>>   s2uojg57gtbj0m12ecau9csfd38ejndn.gl. IN NSEC3 1 1 10 504d114b 
>> SAGKR73F41OMFFI8TDE1CGHOQM502SIH NS SOA RRSIG DNSKEY NSEC3PARAM
>>   s2uojg57gtbj0m12ecau9csfd38ejndn.gl. IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 
>> 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>>   EB30Q0MC6UJD3MIGICRL31Q4SNSIT4T7.gl. IN NSEC3 1 1 10 504d114b 
>> EE4KJQ89ME2PR0AOHKV4G9OACUF3367V NS DS RRSIG
>>   EB30Q0MC6UJD3MIGICRL31Q4SNSIT4T7.gl. IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 
>> 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>>   6LJARAG1OKGTS55S0KMDAS442VDOTMTH.gl. IN NSEC3 1 1 10 504d114b 
>> 742MB65DHD2D8BG0846S1RKRER2E8CUB NS DS RRSIG
>>   6LJARAG1OKGTS55S0KMDAS442VDOTMTH.gl. IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 
>> 20230705050000 20230618050000 39306 gl. [...]
>> 
>> All three 2LDs exist, are delegated, have SOA records and child zones.
>> 
>> -- 
>>   Viktor.
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