Hello Christian,

great to see this – i remember when i mentioned QUIC as an option during the 
DNS-over-HTTP Bar BoF in Seoul i got quite a few weird looks :). I like this. 
It looks like a logical choice somewhere „between“ TLS and DTLS.

I have some background on Section 6.5 (Padding) – back when we specified DNS 
over TLS, we had a similar discussion whether to pad on the DNS or the 
transport (TLS, in that case) layer. We decided in that case that padding on 
the DNS layer is preferred, since it allows for greater control by the 
application. This was actually the reason RFC 7830 was created in the first 
place.

The situation might be different for QUIC as there’s a tighter coupling between 
transport and application, though padding on the DNS layer would allow re-using 
the ongoing research and specification work in DPRIVE. (Disclaimer: I know 
little about the current state of such research for QUIC).

best,
Alex

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FYI: Just published this draft describing transport of DNS over a dedicated 
QUIC connection.
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Name:         draft-huitema-quic-dnsoquic

Revision:     00

Title:        Specification of DNS over QUIC

Document date: 2017-04-10

Group:        Individual Submission

Pages:        18

URL:            
https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-huitema-quic-dnsoquic-00.txt

Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-huitema-quic-dnsoquic/

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Abstract:

   This document describes the use of QUIC to provide transport privacy

   for DNS.  The encryption provided by QUIC has similar properties to

   that provided by TLS, while QUIC transport eliminates the head-of-

   line blocking issues inherent with TCP and provides more efficient

   error corrections than UDP.  DNS over QUIC has privacy properties

   similar to DNS over TLS specified in RFC7858, and performance similar

   to classic DNS over UDP.









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