On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Suggest the following text with the goal of getting consensus that the
> opinion exists and is held by many network operators, not that the opinion
> itself has consensus:
>
> OLD:
> “ In some cases, networks might block access to remote resolvers for
> security reasons, for example to cripple malware and bots or to prevent
> data exfiltration methods that use encrypted DNS communications as
> transport.  In these cases, if the network fully respects user privacy in
> other ways (i.e.  encrypted DNS and good data handling policies) the block
> can serve to further protect user privacy by ensuring such security
> precautions."
>
> NEW:
> “ Many network operators argue that they block access to remote resolvers
> for security reasons, for example to cripple malware and bots or to prevent
> data exfiltration methods that use encrypted DNS communications as
> transport.  Further discussion of Internet service blocking and filtering
> can be found in [RFC7754]."
>

Well, this is a new form of "many people are saying..." to me. I sent a few
messages about specific sections of this document, which are yet to be
addressed, but I also think the entire document is misguided and shouldn't
be published.

It seems to contain a lot of "both sides" rhetoric that is ungrounded in
technical matters, and not appropriate for the IETF to publish.

For example, a reasonable person might look at ways of preventing and/or
uninstalling malware rather than relying on DNS to block it.

thanks,
Rob
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