On Feb 15, 2021, at 2:36 PM, Stephen Farrell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> On 15/02/2021 22:24, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>> Does this sound like a good approach going forward.
> 
> Not to me sorry;-(
> 
> A. I don't understand the proposal.

Fair enough, because I didn't propose one yet, just asking the WG if they 
thought that would be helpful, given that the proponents of fully-authenticated 
have not yet shown interest in publishing a draft.

> B. I want an oppo protocol to be a stepping stone to
> an authenticated one.

Yes, definitely.

> There must be some changes to
> tale that last step of course, but they need to be
> something that can co-exist with the oppo variant and
> also be trivially easy for those deploying (e.g. no
> need to change anything other than a cert maybe).

That might be sufficient, or maybe there has to be one other thing, hopefully 
also trivial.

> I'm
> not clear if you're proposal would make that harder
> but it sure sounds like it would.

Optimally, it would not.

> (That said I'm not
> aware of any practical-to-deploy-soon authenticated
> scheme and don't want to wait for DNSSEC to take over
> the universe, much as I'd be happy if it did.)

Well, exactly.

--Paul Hoffman

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