On 14-08-2019 23:09, Dominic Preston wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 at 21:32, Geert Stappers <stapp...@stappers.nl> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 06:51:52PM +0100, Dominic Preston wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 at 18:43, Simon Kelley <si...@thekelleys.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 11/08/2019 21:01, Dominic Preston wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a fresh installation of Ubuntu 18.04 on Google Cloud Platform.
>>>>
 ...
>>>> It's likely that the MTU for the path from 8.8.8.8 to you it limited,
>>>> and  a reply for one of the queries needed to verify the query is
>>>> getting dropped. Hence dnsmasq reduces the packet size to the more
>>>> conservative 1280, and the query has to be done over TCP.
>>>>
>>>> It works fast the second time because the information you're asking for
>>>> is cached by dnsmasq.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Simon.
>>>>
>>> Thanks Simon, that makes sense.
>>>
>>> Is there a straightforward (non dnsmasq) network command I can run so
>>> I can demonstrate this MTU issue to the Google Cloud team?
>>  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=test+MTU+size  does hint `ping`
>>
>> I don't know how well it goes in this situation.
>>
>>
>> Road that I would explore is how to mimic the dnsmasq request to
>> upstream DNS with `dig`.
>>
>> My attempt with `dig @8.8.8.8 pir.org ANY` returns "MSG SIZE  rcvd: 2509",
>> but no sign of ";; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode."
>>
>> Interresting problem.
>>
>>
> Just to check, are you testing on Google Cloud too Geert?
>
> `dig @8.8.8.8 pir.org ANY` works fine for me too.
>

No, I'm not on Google Cloud.


Regards

Geert Stappers

DevOps Engineer at Hendrikx-ITC




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