>> [ again, sorry for the metaphoric 'you' ]
> Don't worry. You have a strong opinion here. My position is to a large
> extent to be "opposite Randy", so I accept the consequence of being at
> the center of your cross-hairs ;-)

what i meant was the use of the word 'you' when it is not really you who
is moving behind a wall.  it's a limitation of english.

>> yup.  and when one of us leaves the Internet, the namespace will most
>> probably be different.
>> i suspect this is the core of our difference.
> No, it is not. The core is whether this is a DNS problem or an
> application problem. Unreachability is a fact. Changing the namespace
> is a *choice*.

and then in your response to kre you say the opposite, that the definition
of the internet is at the core of the issue.

i really don't have anything new to say, so will relieve you of having to
read it.

randy

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