At 9:42 PM +0000 11/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

        but its not example.orgs call if ns.isi.edu changed its ip
        address to 127.0.3.12... is it?  that would be the call of the
        admin for ns.isi.edu.

Yeah - but - it is example.org's call to de-list ns.isi.edu because of the change. I mean, what if ns.isi.edu changes it's name to ns1.isi.edu, or becomes IPv6 only (and there's no way for example.org's admin to reach it anymore)? Or changes the admin to some organization you don't want to deal with?

Anyway, this is a red herring. The issue isn't about example.org crimping ns.isi.edu's style, it's about example.org maintaining more information about its delegation. When the change happens at ns.isi.edu, the correct next step is to have example.org change the IP it registers.

        and if there were no contact information on that nameserver in
        the form of a HOST record in the whois or comments (w/ glue) in
        the DNS, then debugging an apparent problem is going to be much
        harder.  one could ask if its a service that the .org registry
        is willing to offer on behalf of its clients and the Internet
        community,

My assumption is that debugging requires getting on the phone and getting a live support person somewhere or maybe even a legal request for information. (Being without a law degree, I can't correctly spell "subpeona.") The time is long gone when I can look something up on-line and feel I have a reasonable handle on debugging a situation. I suspect that these extra IP addresses might at best be in WhoIs, but more likely just filed away somewhere internally as they have no operational (packet-flowing) value.

Frankly though, I don't see this information collection happening unless there is some strong motivation given.

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