Hello all,

Two years ago I posted two drafts about a problem with restricting  
distribution of HTTP cookies within TLDs that have one or more layers of  
registry-like domains, such as the .uk, .no and .us domains.

I also gave a presentation to this WG at the meeting in Montreal.

Since Montreal, there have been a couple of developments, primarily that  
Mozilla has continued work on its "Effective TLD" database[1], and is now  
using it in Firefox 3, for example to emphasize information in the address  
bar, and that Internet Explorer 8 (beta) is doing something similar [2]  
(AFAIK based on the same database [3] as Mozilla). Additionally, I have  
the impression that a related issue has emerged in DKIM.

Some argue that the way cookies and Effective TLD use domain names is  
incorrect, and/or based on wrong assumptions about DNS names and the DNS  
hierarchy, but the domains are used this way because there may not  
currently be any feasible alternatives.

The problem area can possibly be defined as "How do we determine that two  
host names and/or domains within a specific hirearchy are administrated by  
the same entity?" .

Currently, this question is answered by some applications by assuming that  
every server and subdomain within a domain is administrated by the owner  
of that domain, but there are problems with this when drawing the line  
between the registry and the ordinary domain owners within the domain  
controlled by the registry.

I believe this problem area needs to be investigated by the DNSop WG, or  
another group within the IETF with expertise in the area.

The drafts I have published are suggestions for how the problem can be  
(partially) solved within the framework my application (a Web Browser)  
works, but there are probably good alternatives or other complementary  
solutions that should be explored.

For more information see:

Drafts:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-pettersen-dns-cookie-validate-03.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-pettersen-subtld-structure-03.txt
(related:  
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-pettersen-cookie-v2-02.txt )

[1] http://wiki.mozilla.org/Gecko:Effective_TLD_Service
[2] <URL:  
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/11/address-bar-improvements-in-internet-explorer-8-beta-1.aspx
  
>
[3] http://www.publicsuffix.org/

Background:

http://my.opera.com/yngve/blog/show.dml/267415
(Related: http://my.opera.com/yngve/blog/show.dml/388840 )

-- 
Sincerely,
Yngve N. Pettersen

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