Good points, all.  One of the things I noted from the WG meeting was the
desire to separate the different types of redirect into distinct I-Ds, which
I plan to do.  That should help avoid conflating what are very different
sort of redirect in practice.

Thanks
Jason


On 7/28/09 5:02 AM, "Alissa Cooper" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Reflecting on something Rob said in yesterday's meeting, I think the
> way that choice is dealt with in draft-livingood-dns-redirect could be
> improved. Whether subscribers are opting in to DNS redirection or not
> obviously has a huge impact on how the practice is judged.
> 
> In the current draft, the four flavors of redirect (web error,
> malicious sites, legally mandated and content-based) are articulated
> as somewhat comparable alternatives. But the last two are actually
> qualitatively different from a choice perspective: it seems highly
> unlikely that legally mandated redirection would be operated with any
> choice mechanism at all, and based on the description of content-based
> redirection, it seems to be describing a purely opt-in service. At the
> same time, the requests that are subject to redirection in both of
> those cases seem to be largely unbounded. A legal mandate could apply
> to any URL (assuming legal authorities act arbitrarily), and a user
> could choose to avoid any content. This is, by definition, not true
> for the other two redirect flavors.
> 
> I understand the desire to avoid discussing opt-in/opt-out mechanisms
> in much detail, but it seems like the broader notion that something
> users choose for themselves is less objectionable that something that
> is chosen on their behalf should be stated up front. This would also
> help distinguish legally mandated and content-based redirection (where
> the type of choice offered is more or less implicit) from web error
> and malicious sites (where the ISP has a decision to make about how
> choice will be offered).
> 
> Alissa
> 

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