In an unrelated problem domain and in an different meeting of the IETF, there was a question about "why can't the DNS have a CNAME and DNAME together" to accomplish the goal. The answer to that relates to this following passage from the slide set here http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/10mar/slides/dnsop-7.pdf

(Slide 5)

Return 0 answers for AAAA if, and only if:
...
-"A" record exists for same name
...

The problem lays with saying "affect type X if there is type Y present". Fundamentally DNS cannot deal with inter-type dependencies because of the way caching works.

In RFC 1034, section 4.3.2 we have the basic means for determining an answer, it has been extended in two or three documents (but not in a way that matters here). In step 3 it has instructions on what to do when matching types. On paper it appears we could say "if there'a type X and type Y, do this" and we could do so for authoritative servers.

But as we know from the "QTYPE=ANY" discussions, you can never assume that a cache will have both types X and Y at any one time. The cache may not have the name at all - in which case the server (if recursive) would have issued a recursive query. It may have type Z, that is, something for the name that is neither X nor Y. It may have X and not Y, or Y and not X. And it just may have X and Y - you never can tell.

You might be tempted to instruct the cache "if you have X and not Y, ask for Y" but that changes the protocol. You could instruct the cache to fetch the X with Y but that is a change, but you would then also have to instruct the cache to tie the TTLs of X and Y to make sure it's "X and Y" or "no X and no Y" at all times.

DNSSEC has these instructions, btw. With DNSSEC it has been hard to bring this on with "fresh" types (and we had to roll them, that is SIG replaced by RRSIG at some point). It would be harder to do this (create inter-type dependencies) with established types.

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