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Hi Marc,

Sorry for the late response.

On 04/19/2011 02:31 PM, Marc Lampo wrote:
> Some comments :
> 
> 3.1 Operational Motivation for ZSK and KSK
> 
> I explicitly agree with Antoin Verschuren [[email protected]] that
> more criteria should be taken into account, more then listed in the
> present document (like the ones he proposes).

I am not sure to which terminology you are referring to. Could you point
me out?

> As extra observation, I would prefer "child-parent" rather then
> "registrar-registry" (globally : any reference to "registrar" or
> "registry").
> Motivation : registrar is linked to the "customer" layer and "registry" to
> the "tld" layer of a "customer.tld." domain name.  But DNSSEC can go below
> that level !  As I am in Belgium, "just.fgov.be." is a delegated subdomain
> : if they will, one day, soon ?, implement DNSSEC, the communicating DS
> information is not between registrar and registry.
> In broader scope : the document should not limit to DNSSEC between a label
> and a top-level-domain (or tld - root-domain).

I am replacing the registrar-registry terms with child-parent on those
places where the text is talking in a more general scope.

> 4.1 Key Rollovers
> 
> For non-tld's, I agree, again, with Antoin Verschuren
> [[email protected]] : recommend double-sign rollover.
> 
> The present document states, "neutrally", that double-sign rollover
> involves more signatures and hence, larger zone files.  While this is
> true, well maintained (public) zone files should be small anyway (except
> for tld's).
> The average company does not offer hundreds of services on hundreds of IP
> addresses.
> 
> A DNS administrator who leaves data like "test-mx" in hers or his public
> data should learn not to publish anything not meant to be distributed.
> Recommending pre-publish for "large" zone files (with "lots" of
> unnecessary data in it) is "pearls to the pigs" ;-)

As said earlier by Paul and Antoin, I too am against such recommendation.

> 4.1.2 Key Signing Rollovers
> 
> I see some tld's perform rollover with 3 keys (not 2).
> 
> Assuming a start position with 2 keys :
> Initial : KSK1 & KSK2 (both being used for signing)
> Start of rollover : add KSK3  --> KSK1 & KSK2 & KSK3 (all used for
> signing)
> End of rollover : remove KSK1 --> KSK2 & KSK3 (both used for signing)
> Advantage :
>  Only 2 actions to complete key rollover
>  During the rollover, there is one key that is completely untouched.
>  --> if chain-of-trust would break via KSK1 or KSK3, that KSK2
> (DS/DNSKEY/RRSIG) is always available.
> 
> As the KSK signs only the DNSKEY RRset, this "costs" only one extra RRSIG
> in the zone file.

To me, this sounds more like a Double-Signature Rollover variant, where
there is a third key 'hanging around'.

Thanks for your review.

Best regards,
  Matthijs




> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Marc Lampo
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Koch [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 18 April 2011 07:42 PM
> To: IETF DNSOP WG
> Subject: [DNSOP] WGLC <draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-06.txt> [2011-05-17]
> 
> Dear DNSOP WG,
> 
> this is to initiate a working group last call (WGLC) on
> 
>       "DNSSEC Operational Practices, Version 2"
>         <draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-06.txt>
> 
> Owing to the length of the document, the WGLC will last for four weeks
> instead of the usual two, and will therefore end on
> 
>               Tuesday, 17 May, 23:59 UTC.
> 
> The IETF tools site gives easy access to the current and previous
> versions as well as differences and the like at
> 
>       <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-06>.
> 
> The document is aimed at a status of "Informational".
> 
> Please review the document and send any comments you may have to the
> list.  If you have no comments but support (or do not support) the
> document being published, please send that information to the list.
> 
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> 
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