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Op 04-03-13 16:02, Joe Abley schreef:

> I think TLD registry operators should remove themselves from the
> business of providing quality control over DS RRSets, just as
> (most) do with NS RRSets. Such behaviour unnecessarily constrains
> technical decisions made by the operators of child zones, acts to
> suppress the use of new algorithms and provides no tangible benefit
> to child nor parent.

And gives room to all the miscreants that want to abuse that as it
only gives benefit to the use case of that one child, but a parent has
to watch over all his children.
We do check NS/DS/whois data, phishing and typo squating, DNS abuse
and DDOS attakcs and our constituency also wants us to do that to feel
comfortable under our domain. It has proven to create a safer environment.

It has little to do with TLD's, it has to do with being a good parent.

I'm all for experimenting and innovating. But I'm also for stability
and security for the ones that need that. That's also a use case that
needs to be supported. So do experiments in your own tree, not
affecting the tree others use for stability. Create your own. DNS is
perfectly suited to do that without including your parent and all it's
other children into your own experiment.

I don't see the difference in algorithm adoption when only a DS hash
at the parent is to be chosen freely when the parents DNSKEY is stil
set by parents policy. A DS is not a SEP, the DNSKEY is. I feel the
whole discussion is more emotion than fact. People want to influence
what their parent does, as little children asking for a higher
allowance. Not realizing that they can be a parent themselves if they
want to, but walk away from that responsibility.

I think the whole idea of sending a DS to your parent is also
historical, and has nothing to do with the model. Because BIND's
signing tools creates both your DNSKEY and a DS hash for convenience
of experimenting, everybody now thinks he has to do something with
that DS, and because you created it it's yours. We started off wrong
by accepting DS as parents, we should have started with DNSKEY right away.
Other processes need DNSKEY (Secure DNS operator transfers f.e.).

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