Moin!

On 05 Jul 2014, at 18:11, Joe Abley <[email protected]> wrote:
> TL;DR: there are way more cons than pros to this proposal. The pros listed 
> are weak; the cons listed are serious. I don't see a net advantage to the DNS 
> (or to perceived performance of the DNS for any client) here. This proposal, 
> if implemented, would represent non-trivial additional complexity with 
> minimal or no benefit. I am not in favour of it, if that's not obvious.
> 
> As noted previously, I am not against documenting and discussing the merits 
> of slaving the root zone on resolvers (in some fashion). My preference would 
> be for a draft called something like 
> "draft-ietf-dnsop-slaving-root-on-resolvers-harmful", which could borrow much 
> of your section 5.1 and 5.2 to make its argument.
Oh like draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil that became RFC5358, but still 
hasn't stopped Google and others offering open resolving service to the 
internet. Granted there are a lot of open DNS proxies out there that should be 
taken down, but I assume there are some companies offering resolving services 
that are valuable to Internet users.

> I remain very much *not* in favour of making changes to the DNS specification 
> that don't have a clear benefit to balance their costs.
I think there is a difference between the precise specification and what you 
can do with your DNS software. While it may not be within the spec you can 
setup an auth server today that slaves the root zone and use a stub on your 
resolver to point to that root zone. That's how I run my setup at home because 
I don't want to my queries to be part of the DITL collection and I know that 
others do that because they have very bad connectivity to the root servers and 
in general. 

I think if we think of the resolver having another auth root server at 
localhost the logic is easier to understand makes much more sense as DNSSEC 
protections would kick in even if someone managed to inject a bad zone. 

The draft doesn't require every resolver to slave the zone, but merly is an 
information that this is a possible way to do it and I assume that large 
resolver operators would benefit from it and the CPEs you mention that even 
haven't implemented EDNS0 wouldn't matter anyway.

It in the end of course comes down to do we want to document what is out there  
anyway or do we want to hide our heads in the sand. Especially for an 
operational group I would prefer the former.

So long
-Ralf

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