ebersman> So your grand scheme is vixie> decorum?
No objections here if you succeed. :) ebersman> ... to limit who can get v6 PTRs and that will be the new ebersman> standard of whether or now you're tall enough to send email ebersman> with the big boys? vixie> yes. Well, for my $DAYJOB, that's certainly something we support. As someone who runs my own mail server and knows other small businesses who do as well, I'm still hoping we can come up with a better system that lets some of the smaller players in too. ebersman> How about we admit that PTRs as a measure of trust and ebersman> reputation is broken to begin with and won't scale or ebersman> magically work better for v6 than v4? Let's come up with a ebersman> better solution(s). vixie> i think we're on the same page, actually. where we're still far vixie> apart is in our understandings of how things work today, in other vixie> words, what status quo are we living with; and also, whether and vixie> in what direction we can change it. I'm happy to be educated or corrected by hard facts. And I agree we probably ultimately want the same thing: email that is more signal than noise to mail servers. Getting back to this draft, I think there is enough value in enumerating the challenges and tradeoffs of doing some kind of v6 PTRs to try to get the draft out soon. Plenty of folks (including $DAYJOB) want something short term that doesn't break anything and looks/smells somewhat like what we already have in v4. No argument that a better solution here long term would be welcome too; I just don't want folks to have another excuse not to roll out v6 now. As for a grander scheme to clean up the PTR space, do you agree that breaking that out into a separate draft is more productive? It does seem to make sense to mention that folks doing the $GENERATE equiv will get the same short shrift from the anti-spam folks that the v4 PTRs get currently. Any other comments/additions to this draft? _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
