> On 21 Nov 2018, at 17:33, Warren Kumari <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> [ - DNSOP (for clutter), +Heather / RFC Editor for sanity :-P ] 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 9:47 AM Sara Dickinson <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 21 Nov 2018, at 14:42, Alexey Melnikov <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the quick response.
> 
>> 
>> Hi Sara,
>>>> 
>>>> 1)
>>>> 
>>>> In 7.4.2:
>>>> 
>>>>   | filter           | O | T | "tcpdump" [pcap] style filter for      |
>>>>   |                  |   |   | input.                                 |
>>>> 
>>>> This makes the [pcap] reference Normative. If you don't want to do that, 
>>>> please
>>>> fully specify syntax in this document.
>>> 
>>> Is that true if it is an optional field? 
>> Yes, optionallity of a field doesn't make its full specification optional.
> 
> In which case it seems we can either include a more specific normative 
> reference here to this page:
> http://www.tcpdump.org/manpages/pcap-filter.7.html 
> <http://www.tcpdump.org/manpages/pcap-filter.7.html>
> 
> or reproduce this page in an appendix. I’d prefer the former unless a 
> reference to such a web page would prove problematic as a normative 
> reference? 
> 
> We discussed this on the telechat, and I took the action to try look into 
> this.
> One of the concerns with a normative reference to the webpage is what happens 
> if it is updated to add a new primitive - is it allowed? If someone 
> implements this on Thursday, can they still claim conformance if a new 
> primitive is added on Friday?
> 
> What we made up on the call was to simply grab a copy of 
> http://www.tcpdump.org/manpages/pcap-filter.7.html 
> <http://www.tcpdump.org/manpages/pcap-filter.7.html> (it seems to be under 
> the BSD license) and put it somewhere on ietf.org <http://ietf.org/>, so we 
> have a stable snapshot to reference, and ask you to point to that.
> But, this was simply us making stuff up on the fly - I'm hoping that the RFC 
> Editor can tell us if this is sane or the worst idea ever, or what….

Thanks for the update, we’ll hold off till we hear more on this. 

Sara. 
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