Wes,

On 10/08/2019 07.30, Wes Hardaker wrote:

8.3.5 NOCHANGE Finally, I note that the suggestion of requiring that the sender 
have
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   some signal indicating that it is interested in extended errors was
   not adopted. I don't insist on it, but I think it would be useful to
   avoid bloating packets unnecessarily. It's a bit like the useless
   additional section data that lots of servers insist on appending to
   answers... why send something that will not be seen?

   OTOH I realize that having this information available may be useful
   for humans debugging things, even if the sender does not ask for it.

   + Response: If there sufficient support, we'd certainly add it.  This
     is primarily intended to be used for extreme cases and only when
     problems/unusual are detected.  Most DNS messages won't contain EDE
     options and when they do they'll likely fall below the DNSSEC
     amplification factors that are out there.  We think the benefit of
     including the extra information outweighs the problems with sending
     it.  But we'd certainly love to hear more feedback from the
     community to see if there is agreement one way or another here.

I guess on balance always having the information is the simplest approach. If there is a specific concern this can be changed.


8.3.6 NOCHANGE On the gripping hand, adding unasked-for information may have 
privacy
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   implications. Possibly adding a "Privacy Considerations" section would
   be useful?

   + response: What would you like us to add to such a section?  The
     question/answers section likely has most of the sensitive
     information.  If you'd provide text to clarify your thinking, we'd
     gladly include it.

I looked through RFC 6973 Section 7 - https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6973#section-7 - and didn't see anything that stuck out obviously to me.

Possibly the only real concern is with extra text. It currently reads:

   The UTF-8-encoded, EXTRA-TEXT field may be zero-length, or may hold
   additional information useful to network operators.

Quad9's proposal to include various helpful information like how dangerous a particular answer might be made me think that we should be careful not to leak information in this channel. For example, a response should not say something like, "daily query limit reached for account 7452-54".

Possibly the description could be changed to something like:

   The UTF-8-encoded, EXTRA-TEXT field may be zero-length, or may hold
   additional information useful to network operators. Care should be
   take not to leak private information that an observer would not
   otherwise have access to, such as account numbers.

Cheers,

--
Shane

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