On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 7:53 AM Tim Wicinski <tjw.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 5:01 AM Joe Abley <jab...@strandkip.nl> wrote: > >> Hi Murray! >> >> Op 17 sep. 2023 om 08:07 heeft Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker < >> nore...@ietf.org> het volgende geschreven: >> >> > I thought the IESG (though maybe not this particular one) had previously >> > discouraged publishing "living documents" like this one in the RFC >> series. So >> > why aren't we doing this as a wiki page or something? Not a hill I >> care to die >> > on, but I'd like to understand. >> >> I find it handy when I write a document that includes DNS terms to cite >> the current terminology document rather than make up my own definitions. >> >> The particular citation I use in a document matches the meaning of the >> terms that were intended in my document. Definitions change from time to >> time, but the intention of my document remains clear even if subsequent >> terminology documents are published. >> >> How do I do that with a wiki page? >> >> >> > Murray > > I have to agree with Joe here. > > And I have never heard of this IESG mandate, but I am always impressed > that they make such statements, and yet have no alternative ideas for such > things. > Perhaps if we focused on making the RFCs have release versions, "DNS > Terminology 4.0" could have this definition. > First, I never said it was a mandate or, as Paul suggested, a policy. It's just come up before when processing other documents and this situation seems similar to me, so I'm wondering where that thought process went. I've seen comments and even ABSTAIN ballot positions that object to publication of informational documents that "could've been a wiki", and living documents are often candidates for such consideration. So here we are. The reason I'm asking, though, is that we had 7719 in 2015, which was replaced by 8499 in 2019, and now this revision. Since we consider RFCs expensive to produce, I thought it was a reasonable question to ask. -MSK
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