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I concur with the concurs of the topic distinction.

Thanks Davey and Shumon for reading something to read later!

tim


On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 11:30 AM Shumon Huque <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, I concur with this distinction Ben, and also that both these topics
> deserve discussion.
>
> Shumon.
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 11:20 AM Ben Schwartz <bemasc=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Davey,
>>
>> To clarify, the "DNS Load Balancing" side meeting will not be concerned
>> primarily with nameserver selection.  Instead, the topic of the side
>> meeting will be about using DNS to perform load balancing of other services
>> and protocols.
>>
>> I think this draft's term ("Nameserver Selection") is good, and we should
>> use that to distinguish it from "DNS Load Balancing".
>>
>> There is certainly some overlap between these notions (as each can be
>> used to implement the other in some fashion), but I would prefer to let
>> both topics mature separately for now.
>>
>> --Ben
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Davey Song <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2024 2:47 AM
>> *To:* dnsop <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt
>>
>> Hi folks, I noticed the momentum on DNS load balancing and NS selection
>> topics. Our co-authors have just compiled a draft summarizing the research
>> findings and best practices in this field, and made some recommendations
>> for developers on secure
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>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I noticed the momentum on DNS load balancing and NS selection topics. Our
>> co-authors have just compiled a draft summarizing the research findings and
>> best practices in this field, and made some recommendations for developers
>> on secure and robust NS selection algorithms. Comments are welcome.
>>
>> Davey
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: <[email protected]>
>> Date: Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 2:19 PM
>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt
>> To: <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Internet-Draft draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt is now available.
>>
>>    Title:   Secure Nameserver Selection Algorithm for DNS Resolvers
>>    Authors: Fenglu Zhang
>>             Baojun Liu
>>             Linjian Song
>>             Shumon Huque
>>    Name:    draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt
>>    Pages:   18
>>    Dates:   2024-07-02
>>
>> Abstract:
>>
>>    Nameserver selection algorithms employed by DNS resolvers are not
>>    currently standardized in the DNS protocol, and this has lead to
>>    variation in the methods being used by implementations in the field.
>>    Recent research has shown that some of these implementations suffer
>>    from significant security vulnerabilities.  This document provides an
>>    in-depth analysis of nameserver selection utilized by mainstream DNS
>>    software and summarizes uncovered vulnerabilities.  Furthermore, it
>>    provides recommendations to defend against these security and
>>    availability risks.  Designers and operators of recursive resolvers
>>    can adopt these recommendations to improve the security and stability
>>    of the DNS.
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection/
>>
>> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
>> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>>
>>
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