I support adopting this draft.   As for the security mechanism, I agree
that it SHOULD be authenticated but also local policy.
If I run a fleet of resolvers and control their cache, I SHOULD be able to
synchronize even unsigned DNS records.
But I SHOULD NOT be allowed to synchronize unsigned DNS records from
resolvers not under my locus of control.



On Tue, Jul 28, 2026 at 2:43 PM Simon Jackson <simon=
[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree entirely.
>
> We are dealing with Key-Value paired parameters, right?
>
> Perhaps an unspecified configuration (where the administrator has not set
> key and value) must be declared by the RFC standard by default. This would
> leave administrators the option to upgrade/replace (should/may) choose to
> override each security parameter (key-value pair), selecting from the
> approved list of values.
>
> > On 28 Jul 2026, at 12:26, Ondřej Surý <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Absolutely, the draft should say that the backchannel SHOULD be
> authenticated and secure. I am just against enforcing specific means to
> achieve this.
> >
> > Ondrej
> > --
> > Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
> >
> > A gentle nudge is always appreciated if I take a little longer to reply.
> >
> >> On 28. 7. 2026, at 12:38, Simon Jackson <simon=
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Perhaps clear use of the verbs MUST, SHOULD, MAY, COULD…
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>>> On 28 Jul 2026, at 10:19, Bill Woodcock <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>>> On Jul 28, 2026, at 14:38, Ondřej Surý <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 27. 7. 2026, at 07:54, Bill Woodcock <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2026, at 17:55, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer=
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bortzmeyer-dnsop-poisonlicious/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I strongly support the effort, but would prefer DoT to be
> mandatory, and DANE authentication to be preferred over TSIG, when
> available.
> >>>>
> >>>> I strongly believe the security mechanism should be a matter of local
> policy
> >>>> (and implementation defaults) rather than something enforced by the
> Internet
> >>>> Standard.
> >>>>
> >>>> So far, the DNS does not even enforce a secure transport and/or
> authentication
> >>>> for XFRs, so enforcing DoT/DANE/whatever for something that is going
> to be
> >>>> mostly used on internal networks feels over the top.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, I should have said DoQ/DoT; force of habit.
> >>>
> >>> I hear you, but I think that as long as we make security optional, a
> lot of people won’t bother, and then a lot of people writing code won’t
> prioritize it, and then it won’t work when it’s needed.  Whereas if
> everything is as secure as our current standards facilitate, all the time,
> we only have a single build target and test case and the most-sensitive
> traffic doesn’t have a target painted on its back.
> >>>
> >>> Why should HTTP be secure-by-default, but DNS not?
> >>>
> >>>                              -Bill
> >>>
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