Thanks to Peter for the excellent minutes.
Dave
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DNSOP WG, IETF 61, "International E", 2004-11-08, 1300-1400
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Chairs: Rob Austein
Dave Meyer
Scribe: Peter Koch
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1300 Administrivia
Rob Austein points to the action item tracking system and encourages
the wg to watch this. Please see
https://rt.psg.com/Search/Listing.html?ValueOfStatus=open&ValueOfStatus=new&Stat+usOp=%3D&QueueOp=%3D&ValueOfQueue=42&RowsPerPage=50&NewSearch=1
Agenda is accepted without changes: walk through on current,
expired and potentially new WG documents
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1307 draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-operational-practices-02.txt
Olaf Kolkman
Targets Informational, not BCP, since we are still lacking 'P'
as in 'Practice'.
Editor asks chairs to issue WGLC (== Working Group Last Call)
ACTION: Chairs: issue WGLC
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1309 draft-ietf-dnsop-inaddr-required-05.txt
Author/Editor not present
Several people express concerns regarding the normative language.
Pekka Savola advocates for another editing round
The sense of the room is, that the next version may be ready
for WGLC
ACTION: Daniel Senie: await and incorporate comments for next version
ALL: read and comment
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1311 draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-10.txt
Pekka Savola gives a status report, draft is mainly addressing
comments by Thomas Narten & IESG
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1313 draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-transport-guidelines-02.txt
Published as RFC 3901 "DNS IPv6 Transport Operational Guidelines"
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1313 draft-ietf-dnsop-key-rollover-requirements-01.txt
Francis Dupont: expects another version, problem with early I-D
deadline
Olaf Kolkman: requirements are relatively straight forward, an I-D
looks overkill; hard to make it more detailed than it is,
but it's so minimal that at the same time it is difficult
to make it useful
Francis Dupont: suggest WGLC for next version
Sam Weiler: there are requirements in I consider bad or inconsistent,
this is not yet ready for publication
Olaf Kolkman: how can we get more input?
Rip Loomis: usually, if I think it's bad, would offer a competing
draft; think it is needed, but not sure current structure
is OK, no offense to the author
Ted Lemon: reason for low feedback is there's low DNSSEC deployment ...
ACTION: Editor: send new version to I-D archive
All: read and send feedback
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1320 draft-ietf-dnsop-misbehavior-against-aaaa-02.txt
[[Morishita Orange Yasuhiro]]
passed wglc, rev 02 in response to IESG comments
should be ready for publication
presents related activity to solve problem
http://v6fix.net
Jaap Akkerhuis: David Mallone presented related work to the RIPE
DNS WG which is WG action item
Yasuhiro: we're already talking to each other
ACTION: Chairs: pass to AD/IESG
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1325 draft-ietf-dnsop-serverid-02.txt
Suzanne Wolff
no progress since last meeting
will send reminder to wg mailing list
DNSEXT will only take it up if req's are clear
hope to be able to request WG Last Call soon
think there's part of the community very interested, but
would be more comfortable with more feedback
ACTION: Suzanne Wolff: issue new version
All: read and send feedback
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1327 draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-03.txt
Matt Larson: we passed WG Last Call, I guess, but wouldn't hurt to
Last Call it again
ACTION: Chairs: issue WGLC
All: read and send feedback
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1328 draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-01.txt
Akira Kato: no more feedback received since San Diego meeting
Olaf Kolkman: there's an "easter egg" in there Paul Vixie mentioned
in San Diego (found it, but don't disclose)
Rob Austein: fear to have this conversation in Minneapolis again
can we try WGLC?
ACTION: Chairs: issue WGLC
All: read and send feedback
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1330 draft-ietf-dnsop-resolver-rollover-01.txt
Olaf Kolkman: work has been taken over in DNSEXT
There was no objection removing this draft off the DNSOP
document queue
ACTION: Chairs: remove document from WG's active documents list
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1331 draft-ietf-dnsop-ohta-shared-root-server-03.txt
Author/Editor not present
Suzanne: has been overtaken by events
There was no objection removing this draft off the DNSOP
document queue -- unless author brings it back
ACTION: Chairs: remove document from WG's active documents list
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1333 draft-ietf-dnsop-dontpublish-unreachable-03.txt
(expired since October 2002)
Author/Editor not present
George [[APNIC]]: hear gossip from other WGs, where they want
[[do not want]] to use addresses under consideration in the
draft
Alain Durand: think we need to publish this
It turns out that the author/current editor has no more time, so
if the WG wants to proceed with the draft, it needs a new editor
Johan Ihren: the document is about uniqueness vs ambiguity,
not (un)reachability
Dave Meyer: understand George that there are cross WG issues here?
maybe can find author there?
ACTION: Chairs: find and appoint new editor
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1337 draft-yasuhiro-dnsop-increasing-dns-server-01.txt
Yasuhiro Orange Morishita
Orange: We need some testing.
Authors will update draft, after that will decide whether to ask WG
for adoption.
ACTION: Chairs: await note from author
All: read and send feedback
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1338 draft-fujiwara-dnsop-bad-dns-auth-01.txt
Kazunori Fujiwara
Presentation available at [[please provide for URL]]
[[alternative source may be http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0410/toyama.html]]
Caching servers/resolvers suffer from authoritative servers,
which cannot be reached via tcp/53 due to lack of service
or restrictive port/packet filters
Suggests EDNS0 (esp. packet size option) be supported on every
authoritative server if zone tends to produce answers not
fitting into 512 octet response packet.
Also suggests modification to DNS resolving algorithm to mitigate
otherwise insoluble truncation problem
Author agrees to split draft into two separate I-Ds
Mark Kosters: needs to be split, agreed
Rip Loomis: the fact that DNS over TCP is mandatory needs to be
made more widely known
Peter Koch: extend documentation to opposite problem, auth servers
suffering from bad path config and SYN flood
There were no objections or concerns to adopt subsequent split
I-D pair as WG items.
ACTION: Chairs: await note from author
Author: split and resubmit
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1354 draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-configuration-04.txt
David Kessens, AD: The draft is under IESG consideration,
no agreement within IESG either, will look at it at the
next IESG telechat
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1357 AOB
Rip Loomis asks whether there is any interest in updating
RFC 2541 (DNS Security Operational Considerations). The original
author could act as reviewer, but does not have the resources
to lead the update.
Although several attendees remember to have read the RFC, there's
no clear opinion. Attendees ask for time for review.
ACTION: Olaf Kolkman: Review RFC 2541 and suggest modifications in the
light of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-operational-practices
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14:00 end of session
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