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I should note that my motivation for sending my follow-up was based on a
rapid discussion on the Parliaments Online Forum that I run.  As Ryan pointed
out just now on the telephone no one enjoys being critiqued and
organizations use different measures.  Here it is the ten minute citizen
view versus I guess what a political junkie might find in 30 minutes.

Other comments welcome for DO-WIRE:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steven Clift
Democracies Online

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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:40:20 -0400
From: Ryan Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Response to DO-WIRE Notice of State Legislative Web Sites Report

Steve,


Thank you for circulating the executive summary of our state

legislative website report to the DO-WIRE list. We must take great

exception, however, with the mischaracterization of your follow-up

posting to the list. If you had taken time to contact us prior to

your message, you would have a better understanding of what we did.


The report itself was not a scientific study, and is clearly labelled

as such. Much like the press accounts which did not bother to speak

with us directly, your notice implies that shoddy research was done.


This project was designed to set a starting point for citizens,

public interest groups, and applied and academic researchers to

determine how best to measure those online resources which provide an
entry point into the state legislatures as a whole, rather than the
individual chambers of a legislature, or each legislator web page. We
state pretty explicitly our rational for doing so in the report.


We worked directly with Prof. John McNutt at Boston College's School

of Social Work (also cited in the report) to help derive a baseline

set of measures, which required a review of what little research is

out there in both the commercial and e-government literature that

applies directly to state legislatures.


In the three weeks since the report was released, and the press and

state legislatures picked it up, we have indeed generated a lot of

debate and discussion. Unfortunately, most of it, like your post,

centered on a misreading of what we actually did and found. Using a

10-minute window (which is slightly more generous than the average

amount of time users spend on commercial websites), we tried to
locate some 80 features from a citizen's perspective. While we have

definitely received a few harsh words from some individuals, for the

most part, the states themselves have been very receptive to having

attention focused on their efforts and the constraints they are

bumping up against-- including limited public participation in
developing resources to meet citizen needs. They have communicated
not only useful critiques of our findings, but also their
appreciation that we paid attention both to possible gaps as well as
potential solutions for bridging those gaps. The areas of privacy and
accessibility, for example, remain a constant concern for the state
legislatures themselves, and they need public input on things they
might not catch.


We did our examination at a fixed point in time, while legislatures

were out of session because, frankly, we would argue that while

information changes and is constantly (hopefully) updated and

maintained, at a minimum, placeholders for that information should be

easily found whenever citizens want access.


We did not rank or rate states because, honestly, it sets the wrong

type of attention and motivation for the work states are trying to

accomplish, and turns what should be a citizen-oriented effort into a

horse race where flash wins out over substance. We did not "penalize"

nor "praise" states based on what their sites looked like. We merely

provided, again, a starting point for future research to take place.


We also clearly state in the report that elements "not found" may
very well exist, but that to the end user unfamiliar with the
terminology or layout of these online entry points, the overall
usefulness and experience can be a challenge at best.


We should have foreseen that people would go directly to the tables
and not read the report, although we stated that no does mean -not
found in the actual text of the report.  Cite us for a failure to set
things up for human nature.


We are not "updating" the report, which is not a "draft." Throughout

April, we are providing an "addendum" of state responses that allows

citizens and researchers to see what starting points  for future work

are available. Our next report in this area will not be focused on the

online entry points, as a number of researchers-- and even the

National Conference of State Legislatures <<http://www.ncsl.org>

itself-- are already undertaking more through examination,

measures, and evaluation.


Rather than have researchers contact us for update requests, we

encourage researchers, public interest groups, and individual
citizens to begin sorely needed dialogue with state legislatures and
their IT staff to see what great things are underway, and how they
can help improve what is going on. We would be more than happy to
assist in that work in whatever way we can.



Matt Carter

Kay Guinane

Ryan Turner


OMB Watch

1742 Connecticut Ave, NW

Washington, DC 20009

(202) 234-8494

(202) 234-8584 (fax)

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